Re: Nasty Nets Halloween Conversation Thread

by Art Fag City on November 6, 2007 · 10 comments Events

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For the sizable chunk of my readership who don’t follow Nasty Net conversation threads, a heated exchange and temporary shut down of the blog (Nasty Nets was replaced by a giant puppy for two days,) ensued after I challenged Jason Kottke on the idea that group curated blogs, Nasty Nets among them, represent a new and improved form of art curating. The point of the original post was both to point out the issues for the reader in group blogs, and to challenge the notion that design and fine art were one giant interchangeable field of study. Nasty Nets was mentioned, both because the increased number of users has introduced a slew of problems normally associated with user blogs (ie too many posts to follow the blog properly, watered down content), but also because I think the net community, myself included, has at times mislabeled the blog as a whole as art (a mistake I ironically make in my own post.)

As for what happened on the thread, one member reacted poorly to the criticism, which since spawned a chain of heated commentary, including my own over reaction, and some selected blinking Dre lyrics. In short, none of the discussion of this nature has been very constructive. Since the original post was meant to engender conversation, as opposed to being divisive, I reopen the thread with that spirit.

Related: Tom Moody’s constructive post on VVORK, Nasty Nets, Your Daily Awesome

{ 10 comments }

stephe November 6, 2007 at 5:24 pm

I could be completely wrong, as I am not a member of NN nor do I really know any of them, but it seems to me that they might be purposely trying for results such as “too many posts to follow the blog properly” and/or “watered down content”. What do you mean by ‘properly’? I for one am not sure what it means to properly consume or produce information. I think some members are flirting with that as part of the nastiness. In fact, I would argue that considering the number of members, the posting frequency is low, not high. And it does indeed appear to be an ‘art’ endeavor. For me some questions which arise are… Is it ‘curation’ in addition to ‘art’? Is it any good? Am I totally burnt out on funny cut/paste content? Or do I love this???

stephe November 6, 2007 at 1:24 pm

I could be completely wrong, as I am not a member of NN nor do I really know any of them, but it seems to me that they might be purposely trying for results such as “too many posts to follow the blog properly” and/or “watered down content”. What do you mean by ‘properly’? I for one am not sure what it means to properly consume or produce information. I think some members are flirting with that as part of the nastiness. In fact, I would argue that considering the number of members, the posting frequency is low, not high. And it does indeed appear to be an ‘art’ endeavor. For me some questions which arise are… Is it ‘curation’ in addition to ‘art’? Is it any good? Am I totally burnt out on funny cut/paste content? Or do I love this???

song kwai li November 7, 2007 at 2:45 am

Art blogs should vomit. I dont look at much nasty nets because like internet it gives me bad headache. “water downed”. maybe. most art is water down. most art crap. is nasty or vv or ffff going to be the fascist that save art from snob critics of art world. No because they are not fascist enough. need more balls, less democracy and more vulnerability, then blogs start growing an economy that help develop new art spaces and exchanges. Does the gogysian care u are on fffound. NO! so what gallery care, who cares.

song kwai li November 6, 2007 at 10:45 pm

Art blogs should vomit. I dont look at much nasty nets because like internet it gives me bad headache. “water downed”. maybe. most art is water down. most art crap. is nasty or vv or ffff going to be the fascist that save art from snob critics of art world. No because they are not fascist enough. need more balls, less democracy and more vulnerability, then blogs start growing an economy that help develop new art spaces and exchanges. Does the gogysian care u are on fffound. NO! so what gallery care, who cares.

jkottke November 7, 2007 at 6:37 pm

I’d just like to note that I never argued that FFFFOUND! and similar sites “represent a new and improved form of art curating”…just as blogs do not represent a new and improved form of journalism.

jkottke November 7, 2007 at 2:37 pm

I’d just like to note that I never argued that FFFFOUND! and similar sites “represent a new and improved form of art curating”…just as blogs do not represent a new and improved form of journalism.

Art Fag City November 7, 2007 at 7:01 pm

It’s true, you only said it was a new form of art curating. However, the post seemed to me to suggest you thought this kind of mixing was for the better (you only cite blogs you think are successful.) If you feel I’ve mischaracterized your meaning, I’ll remove “improved”.

Art Fag City November 7, 2007 at 3:01 pm

It’s true, you only said it was a new form of art curating. However, the post seemed to me to suggest you thought this kind of mixing was for the better (you only cite blogs you think are successful.) If you feel I’ve mischaracterized your meaning, I’ll remove “improved”.

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