Damien Hirst faces eight new claims of plagiarism | Art and design | The Guardian

by Art Fag City on September 6, 2010 · 28 comments Fresh Links!

  • Damien Hirst faces eight new claims of plagiarism | Art and design | The Guardian – Granted there is a lot of similarity between John LeKay's work and Hirst's but isn't the replication of these ideas just one more indication that the core concept isn't that sophisticated to begin with? I don't see an issue with the so called plagiarism of Precious' butterfly work at all as the treatment of the butterflies and the patterning is different.

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tom moody September 6, 2010 at 5:20 pm

Man, that is a thin article. One ten-year-old out-of-court settlement with a toy manufacturer and several examples spoonfed to the writer by “a group campaigning for traditional artistry.”
“I was gonna do that idea but I didn’t” shouldn’t be newsworthy.

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tom moody September 6, 2010 at 5:20 pm

Man, that is a thin article. One ten-year-old out-of-court settlement with a toy manufacturer and several examples spoonfed to the writer by “a group campaigning for traditional artistry.”
“I was gonna do that idea but I didn’t” shouldn’t be newsworthy.

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tom moody September 6, 2010 at 5:20 pm

Man, that is a thin article. One ten-year-old out-of-court settlement with a toy manufacturer and several examples spoonfed to the writer by “a group campaigning for traditional artistry.”
“I was gonna do that idea but I didn’t” shouldn’t be newsworthy.

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tom moody September 6, 2010 at 5:20 pm

Man, that is a thin article. One ten-year-old out-of-court settlement with a toy manufacturer and several examples spoonfed to the writer by “a group campaigning for traditional artistry.”
“I was gonna do that idea but I didn’t” shouldn’t be newsworthy.

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tom moody September 6, 2010 at 1:20 pm

Man, that is a thin article. One ten-year-old out-of-court settlement with a toy manufacturer and several examples spoonfed to the writer by “a group campaigning for traditional artistry.”
“I was gonna do that idea but I didn’t” shouldn’t be newsworthy.

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Art Fag City September 6, 2010 at 5:24 pm

I know, and this “story” is EVERYWHERE.

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Art Fag City September 6, 2010 at 5:24 pm

I know, and this “story” is EVERYWHERE.

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Art Fag City September 6, 2010 at 5:24 pm

I know, and this “story” is EVERYWHERE.

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Art Fag City September 6, 2010 at 1:24 pm

I know, and this “story” is EVERYWHERE.

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Charles Thomson September 12, 2010 at 8:23 am

You “don’t see an issue with the so called plagiarism of Precious’ butterfly work”. She had to give up doing that work altogether for the simple reason that if she exhibited it, she would be accused of copying Hirst. If it works that way round, it works the other way round. Same with LeKay. Same with the others. It’s not a question of ““I was gonna do that idea but I didn’t” The point is that other people did do the ideas and have not received due recognition for them. This is nothing to do with just credit. It’s totally down to Hirst’s media power to manipulate perceptions, suppress art history, and bask in an achievement which is not his.

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Charles Thomson September 12, 2010 at 8:23 am

You “don’t see an issue with the so called plagiarism of Precious’ butterfly work”. She had to give up doing that work altogether for the simple reason that if she exhibited it, she would be accused of copying Hirst. If it works that way round, it works the other way round. Same with LeKay. Same with the others. It’s not a question of ““I was gonna do that idea but I didn’t” The point is that other people did do the ideas and have not received due recognition for them. This is nothing to do with just credit. It’s totally down to Hirst’s media power to manipulate perceptions, suppress art history, and bask in an achievement which is not his.

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Charles Thomson September 12, 2010 at 8:23 am

You “don’t see an issue with the so called plagiarism of Precious’ butterfly work”. She had to give up doing that work altogether for the simple reason that if she exhibited it, she would be accused of copying Hirst. If it works that way round, it works the other way round. Same with LeKay. Same with the others. It’s not a question of ““I was gonna do that idea but I didn’t” The point is that other people did do the ideas and have not received due recognition for them. This is nothing to do with just credit. It’s totally down to Hirst’s media power to manipulate perceptions, suppress art history, and bask in an achievement which is not his.

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Charles Thomson September 12, 2010 at 4:23 am

You “don’t see an issue with the so called plagiarism of Precious’ butterfly work”. She had to give up doing that work altogether for the simple reason that if she exhibited it, she would be accused of copying Hirst. If it works that way round, it works the other way round. Same with LeKay. Same with the others. It’s not a question of ““I was gonna do that idea but I didn’t” The point is that other people did do the ideas and have not received due recognition for them. This is nothing to do with just credit. It’s totally down to Hirst’s media power to manipulate perceptions, suppress art history, and bask in an achievement which is not his.

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Charles Thomson September 12, 2010 at 8:28 am

You can read the original article from The Jackdaw here:
http://www.stuckism.com/Hirst/StoleArt.html

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Charles Thomson September 12, 2010 at 4:28 am

You can read the original article from The Jackdaw here:
http://www.stuckism.com/Hirst/StoleArt.html

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Charles Thomson September 13, 2010 at 3:01 am

John LeKay has this on his website:

Q: Why is it impossible to show your work?

John LeKay: Because now everyone who sees it now says it looks like a Damien Hirst artwork … it appears that Damien thought that when I walked away from the art world back in 95, that gave him carte blanche to take anything he wanted. Maybe he saw it as free pickings, sifting through my work like a vulture. His problem is that I’m still alive and kicking and have no intention of going away.

See: http://www.johnlekay.com/JohnLeKay.frequentlyaskedquestions.6.htm

The movie of my article is now on general release!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fq4CerVEgQ

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Charles Thomson September 13, 2010 at 3:01 am

John LeKay has this on his website:

Q: Why is it impossible to show your work?

John LeKay: Because now everyone who sees it now says it looks like a Damien Hirst artwork … it appears that Damien thought that when I walked away from the art world back in 95, that gave him carte blanche to take anything he wanted. Maybe he saw it as free pickings, sifting through my work like a vulture. His problem is that I’m still alive and kicking and have no intention of going away.

See: http://www.johnlekay.com/JohnLeKay.frequentlyaskedquestions.6.htm

The movie of my article is now on general release!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fq4CerVEgQ

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Charles Thomson September 13, 2010 at 3:01 am

John LeKay has this on his website:

Q: Why is it impossible to show your work?

John LeKay: Because now everyone who sees it now says it looks like a Damien Hirst artwork … it appears that Damien thought that when I walked away from the art world back in 95, that gave him carte blanche to take anything he wanted. Maybe he saw it as free pickings, sifting through my work like a vulture. His problem is that I’m still alive and kicking and have no intention of going away.

See: http://www.johnlekay.com/JohnLeKay.frequentlyaskedquestions.6.htm

The movie of my article is now on general release!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fq4CerVEgQ

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Charles Thomson September 13, 2010 at 3:01 am

John LeKay has this on his website:

Q: Why is it impossible to show your work?

John LeKay: Because now everyone who sees it now says it looks like a Damien Hirst artwork … it appears that Damien thought that when I walked away from the art world back in 95, that gave him carte blanche to take anything he wanted. Maybe he saw it as free pickings, sifting through my work like a vulture. His problem is that I’m still alive and kicking and have no intention of going away.

See: http://www.johnlekay.com/JohnLeKay.frequentlyaskedquestions.6.htm

The movie of my article is now on general release!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fq4CerVEgQ

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Charles Thomson September 12, 2010 at 11:01 pm

John LeKay has this on his website:

Q: Why is it impossible to show your work?

John LeKay: Because now everyone who sees it now says it looks like a Damien Hirst artwork … it appears that Damien thought that when I walked away from the art world back in 95, that gave him carte blanche to take anything he wanted. Maybe he saw it as free pickings, sifting through my work like a vulture. His problem is that I’m still alive and kicking and have no intention of going away.

See: http://www.johnlekay.com/JohnLeKay.frequentlyaskedquestions.6.htm

The movie of my article is now on general release!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fq4CerVEgQ

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Charles Thomson September 13, 2010 at 3:03 am

There’s a graphic here to explain a simple point that seems hard to grasp in the moral evisceration of Postmodernism:
http://www.stuckism.com/Hirst/Jackdaw/z-Spectrum1.jpg

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Charles Thomson September 13, 2010 at 3:03 am

There’s a graphic here to explain a simple point that seems hard to grasp in the moral evisceration of Postmodernism:
http://www.stuckism.com/Hirst/Jackdaw/z-Spectrum1.jpg

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Charles Thomson September 12, 2010 at 11:03 pm

There’s a graphic here to explain a simple point that seems hard to grasp in the moral evisceration of Postmodernism:
http://www.stuckism.com/Hirst/Jackdaw/z-Spectrum1.jpg

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Art Fag City September 13, 2010 at 4:30 am

Oh for God’s sake. I take issue with Damien Hirst legally pursuing those who “steal” his own ideas, but this story is just a cry for attention. In both cases the artists crying foul should move on to ideas a little more gripping.

Also, I can’t believe I’m saying this, but the best of Hirst’s Butterfly paintings put those mentioned to shame. Mind you they were probably wholly executed by assistants, but whatever.

Also also, if John LeKay is the John LeKay behind Heyoka Magazine, I don’t think he’s worth taking that seriously.

Take a look at what Marina Galperina wrote for Animal.

http://animalnewyork.com/2010/09/stealing-crucified-sheep-is-ok-but-not-when-damien-hirst-does-it/

It’s a worthy rebuttal.

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Art Fag City September 13, 2010 at 4:30 am

Oh for God’s sake. I take issue with Damien Hirst legally pursuing those who “steal” his own ideas, but this story is just a cry for attention. In both cases the artists crying foul should move on to ideas a little more gripping.

Also, I can’t believe I’m saying this, but the best of Hirst’s Butterfly paintings put those mentioned to shame. Mind you they were probably wholly executed by assistants, but whatever.

Also also, if John LeKay is the John LeKay behind Heyoka Magazine, I don’t think he’s worth taking that seriously.

Take a look at what Marina Galperina wrote for Animal.

http://animalnewyork.com/2010/09/stealing-crucified-sheep-is-ok-but-not-when-damien-hirst-does-it/

It’s a worthy rebuttal.

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Art Fag City September 13, 2010 at 4:30 am

Oh for God’s sake. I take issue with Damien Hirst legally pursuing those who “steal” his own ideas, but this story is just a cry for attention. In both cases the artists crying foul should move on to ideas a little more gripping.

Also, I can’t believe I’m saying this, but the best of Hirst’s Butterfly paintings put those mentioned to shame. Mind you they were probably wholly executed by assistants, but whatever.

Also also, if John LeKay is the John LeKay behind Heyoka Magazine, I don’t think he’s worth taking that seriously.

Take a look at what Marina Galperina wrote for Animal.

http://animalnewyork.com/2010/09/stealing-crucified-sheep-is-ok-but-not-when-damien-hirst-does-it/

It’s a worthy rebuttal.

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Art Fag City September 13, 2010 at 4:30 am

Oh for God’s sake. I take issue with Damien Hirst legally pursuing those who “steal” his own ideas, but this story is just a cry for attention. In both cases the artists crying foul should move on to ideas a little more gripping.

Also, I can’t believe I’m saying this, but the best of Hirst’s Butterfly paintings put those mentioned to shame. Mind you they were probably wholly executed by assistants, but whatever.

Also also, if John LeKay is the John LeKay behind Heyoka Magazine, I don’t think he’s worth taking that seriously.

Take a look at what Marina Galperina wrote for Animal.

http://animalnewyork.com/2010/09/stealing-crucified-sheep-is-ok-but-not-when-damien-hirst-does-it/

It’s a worthy rebuttal.

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Art Fag City September 13, 2010 at 12:30 am

Oh for God’s sake. I take issue with Damien Hirst legally pursuing those who “steal” his own ideas, but this story is just a cry for attention. In both cases the artists crying foul should move on to ideas a little more gripping.

Also, I can’t believe I’m saying this, but the best of Hirst’s Butterfly paintings put those mentioned to shame. Mind you they were probably wholly executed by assistants, but whatever.

Also also, if John LeKay is the John LeKay behind Heyoka Magazine, I don’t think he’s worth taking that seriously.

Take a look at what Marina Galperina wrote for Animal.

http://animalnewyork.com/2010/09/stealing-crucified-sheep-is-ok-but-not-when-damien-hirst-does-it/

It’s a worthy rebuttal.

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